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Kurdi's avatar

This chapter kicked my ass, read both this analysis and it twice. The ideas of humanity, moreso the elite, working to separate themselves from nature is eerily new to me. I've observed it in the behavior or billionaires but never quite put it together that at the end of the day, they just want to be immortal. Expressing it through a dense mythos-synopsis (a la Pan, Titans, life vs. death) didn't make it any easier to swallow. There is a beauty there I sense but can't see or fully appreciate (common feeling for me throughout GR) which drives me to dig in more.

"still strata, transputrefied to oil or coal” (720) - the idea man can only perceive & interact with 'tangible facets' reminds me of how machine learning feature engineering is done. As far as I'm educated (CS by degree, data scientist by trade) we engineer and create features to feed into our large neural networks and then they do their magic of learning from there. There is work on automatic feature engineering, but I believe the most successful systems still need expert guidance for selection and state-of-the-art performance.

For example, take a person's features. Age, Height, Sex, Gender, Sexual orientation, Nationality, Education, Shoe Size, Eye Color, Myers-Briggs Personality, IQ, Religion, Cock length, 100-meter dash time, Political alignment, Porn search history, # of relationships,

These are all things man's defined, they are not given to us from the Titans. Anytime you create a set of labels you are always reducing the entity to something less than it's whole. In an attempt to control it or perform some operation on it, like Blicero wants.

Is it possible, as they mature with enough computation and data, for these LLM's and eventually AGI's to tap into the Titan's and remind us of our original/true place in nature? Will we resurrect the dead gods? Or are they a permanent bifurcation in the evolutionary timeline, lost to a logical space. Our new gods, computational powerhouses, emulating the dirty biological processes enough to control us.

I'm not sure myself. I believe both can happen. As the creators of these new artificial beings we train and raise them. If the creators are imbued with the touch of the Titans, I believe that connection with death will come through. Yet, we'll also see AI's who only serve the interest of the elites, because they'll destroy and retrain until they do (like they attempt to do with the people).

In this perspective, it's another installment in the same War we've been fighting since the first monkey started collecting taxes and we left our Paleolithic origins. I think our conception(s) and relationship(s) with technology needs a major overhaul and could help us find a more beneficial path in this frightening future.

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This chapter, and particularly your write-up of it, reminded me of a piece I read years ago, Sam Kriss's "Manifesto of the Committee to Abolish Outer Space" (https://thenewinquiry.com/manifesto-of-the-committee-to-abolish-outer-space/). Re-reading it now, it feels almost like a Preterite response to Blicero's lunacy. Kriss writes of Robert Zubrin's "The Case for Mars":

"It’s a strange and unnerving text. Despite the title, most of the work isn’t so much a case for Mars as a pedantic argument for the feasibility of Zubrin’s own Mars Direct program. Only in the final chapters does something like a reason why we should want to go to Mars emerge: Space colonization should be read as an exact analogue to Christopher Columbus’s pillage of the Americas. (Columbus is mentioned four times in the book, Marx only once; this is always a bad sign.) By opening up the Americas to settlement, Columbus created something new and unique called “Western humanist civilization.” Out of stifling feudal ignorance grew a society in which “human life and human rights are held precious beyond price,” a world of restless dynamism where scientific innovation is upheld and every effort is made to improve the quality of life for all."

Of course, the true reason for the colonization of the Americas wasn't humanism at all, but the simple fact that the Elite had become "unable to extract enough of a surplus from the restive peasants to reproduce their society." The Elite is facing a similar problem now, as the society They have engineered

"depends for its existence on the presence of a frontier, a blank homogeneous space to be settled and transformed by the desires and fantasies of an entrepreneurial libidinality, one whose open freedom can’t help but transform in turn those settled societies back East. The old frontier has been closed for a long time, and the results are clear to see: “the spread of irrationalism; the banalization of popular culture; the loss of willingness by individuals to take risks, to fend for themselves or think for themselves.” Our manly vigor has been sapped, but we can regain it if we take a new lover. We must inseminate Mars."

In many ways, Kriss is a very different writer from Pynchon. However, I think they share a similar ethos, and I really see that in this paragraph towards the end of the piece:

"We said earlier that for us to abolish something does not mean to destroy it. Once the cosmos was thought to be painted on the veil of the firmament, or to be some kind of divine metaphor, a flatness inscribed with thousands of meaningful stories. Since then it’s become outer space, a grotesque emptiness. Space is a site of desecration, an emptiness in which one moves, and moving into space means closing down any chances for Earth. C.A.O.S. is not interested in setting up limits. We want to create a future, not one of tin cans dodging rocks in a void, but a future for human life. To do this we must abolish outer space with all its death and idiocy, and return the cosmos to its proper domain, which is mythology, so that when we look up it will be in fear and wonder, and the knowledge that we live in a world that is not possible."

Anyway, if you made it through all this, just want to say thanks for doing this blog! It's greatly enhanced my enjoyment of this already quite-enjoyable novel. Now I just need to decide which Pynchon to read next (this is my first).

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